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Brannon Estay
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| 06/11/2008 5:10 PM |
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| here is a simple fix in my abnormal way of thinking on fixing education. i know it just needs to go away altogether, the federal government in our education that is. But i do not see that taking place any time soon so until then a quick fix. Every government official including the president and congress has to have thier children and grandchildren in public schools. I promice the public education system would be emaculent after a years time. Sorry for all the mispelled words i was in public school systems, lol. |
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The grass is always greener on the other side due to all the bodies fertilizing the ground!!!! |
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Drew Underwood
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| 10/21/2008 10:47 AM |
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| I support the voucher system. It would provide competition within schools, and that's the only way we can give the schools incentives to do better. And I am typing this message from a public school computer because I am in 9th grade at Central High School. The way I see it--the only gets who decided to push themselves to get a good education will end up in the IB program like me. There doesn't seem to be to many of us who are smart enough to accept the challenge. So all of America's kiddos will grow up to be dumb, and probably vote for national health care. I expect my generation to hold the last of the Conservative breed. It dies with me--and I don't know if there's anything that anyone can do about it. |
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Amen, and God bless America,
Drew Underwood of the Modern Conservative Party of America
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Brian Hodge
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| 11/09/2008 10:08 AM |
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| Get rid of all the liberals in the elementary schools up to college and that will go a long way towards improvement! |
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William Hicks
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| 11/10/2008 2:11 AM |
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| Yeah, why is it that so many of the teachers in our education system appear to be liberals? |
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Drew Underwood
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| 11/18/2008 11:02 AM |
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I agree, but that's like saying "let's have world peace. We will have everyone from every religion working together in peace." It simply cannot happen.
So here are our choices:
1.) Take over the board of education and make sure schools have Conservative principles and teachers.
2.) Don't necessarily try to replace the Liberal teachers--take away their ability to infect kids.
3.) Start student-based conservative alliances, such as I have done with the Conservative Underground Central Youth Division. Check out www.cucyd.tk for more information about what I'm doing there.
4.) Attempt a combination of all three above stated strategies.
I VOTE #4!
I would also like to bring to your attention the freedo of speech problems in school. Last year I was asked to write a paper about whatever I choose, so I wrote about my Conservatism and family values. I was insulted in front of all my peers by the teacher and told to rewrite it. So I wrote about freedom of speech, and how I believe that anyone should have the right to say what they feel, even, if not especially, at school. I was then sent to the office because it was so "defiant" and "rude." I would further like it to be noted that other kids endorsed Liberal ideas in their papers, without getting in trouble.
Well, about two weeks ago my sister's teacher asked the kids if she could talk about politics with them. They agreed, so she proceeded to talk about how she supported Obama because she doesn't like Socialism. The next week they had parent-teacher conferences, and two parents yelled at here when their kid came home crying from the "socialism" thing. Well, she was forced to tell the class that she was wrong, that McCain is not the correct choice. She had to tell these kids she was racist--a flat out lie! It's ridiculous!
So why do Conservatives get in trouble when we speak our mind, but not Liberals? |
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Amen, and God bless America,
Drew Underwood of the Modern Conservative Party of America
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Mike Atlas
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| 11/20/2008 10:05 AM |
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I like choice 5.) None of the above. I would consider #2, but we'd have to define "infect." I wouldn't want kids "infected" with conservative propaganda either.
Something tells me there is more to your story, too. How would the other side of this story differ from yours? |
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Brian Hodge
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| 11/23/2008 8:27 PM |
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| I am a very reasonable person. I know people disagree with doing the right thing because they have a belief that it is societies job to take care of people who won't or can't take care of themselves. In my family if someone can't take of themselves then the family takes up the slack. If someone doesn't and won't take care of themselves, then they are on there own and I hope they get it eventually. This Mike Atlas said something very disturbing. First of all for me being a conservative is a way of life. It defines many things you can expect from me. What is your position Mike Atlas? If you are not a conservative why are you here? |
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Drew Underwood
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| 11/23/2008 8:51 PM |
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[quote]Posted By Mike Atlas on 11/20/2008 10:05 AM
I like choice 5.) None of the above. I would consider #2, but we'd have to define "infect." I wouldn't want kids "infected" with conservative propaganda either.
Something tells me there is more to your story, too. How would the other side of this story differ from yours? [/quote]
So you would just let the Liberals continue to ruin our schools? Are you retarded?
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Amen, and God bless America,
Drew Underwood of the Modern Conservative Party of America
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Mike Atlas
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| 11/24/2008 10:35 AM |
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Brian, I'm not a conservative. I agree with conservative economics, for the most part, but not their social policies. I'm here to challange your views, and I'm here because your views challange me.
Drew, no I don't want Liberals OR Conservatives to ruin our schools. And no, I'm not retarded. If you really want to run for election in the near future, you need to brush up on your communication skills when you're faced with opposing view-points. Just because somebody disagrees doesn't mean they're retarded. And there aren't any Liberals running around trying to figure out how to ruin your school or wreck the economy. |
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Drew Underwood
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| 11/24/2008 12:51 PM |
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| If you aren't Conservative, then GET THE HELL OUT OF THE YOUNG [u]CONSERVATIVES[/u] FORUM! This forum was made for [u]Conservatives[/u], not [u]losers[/u]! |
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Amen, and God bless America,
Drew Underwood of the Modern Conservative Party of America
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Mike Atlas
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| 11/24/2008 2:22 PM |
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| I'm fiscally conservative. I don't agree with conservative social policies. And if that's the level of social skills one can expect from a conservative, then no thank-you. Aren't you aspiring to run for office some day? Is that the kind of attitude we can expect from you as a leader? |
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Brian Hodge
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| 11/24/2008 9:29 PM |
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| Drew take a deep breath! I don't mind someone challenging a conservative point of view. If you are open minded and can accepted someone being more correct for the masses. Liberals do use their positions to influence and control. No matter what the venue if power is the motivation corruption is on the way. I do what is right, period. Please explain what you mean by conservative economics Mike. I am curious about you positions on social issues. I am originally from CA and I know there are generations that live on welfare and free lunches in school. I think there has to be a cost for this. Kids who eat free, parents get up early and pick up trash along the highways if they are unwilling to get a job or get retraining. Please somebody bail me out without any effort on my end. |
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Mike Atlas
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| 11/25/2008 9:50 AM |
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Conservative economics, I tend to agree with conservatives on issues about money. I tend to agree, not always, but most of the time. I agree with conservatives on smaller government, less taxes (or the fair-tax), and keeping the government out of health-care.
It’s funny to hear Conservatives talk about Liberals, and Liberals talk about Conservatives. You don’t think that Conservatives use their positions to influence and control? You don’t think that Conservatives are corrupt? And what do you mean by “I do what is right, period.” Right by whose standard? Your own?
I don’t agree with free hand-outs at all. We shouldn’t have to pay for that. Those people should be willing to accept job training or something. But the people with integrity who actually want the training probably are not the kind of people who would accept welfare to begin with. They won’t ask for help, they try to help themselves. Maybe we need some time constraints on welfare and/or restrictions such as you have to pass a drug-test to qualify, etc. And people who abuse the system should face some kind of penalty.
On social issues, I’m more of a Libertarian. I believe in personal freedom and the resposibility that goes along with that freedom. I don’t think that it’s the government’s place to legislate morality or ethical behavior, you can’t force people to be good. This is where I disagree with Conservatism.
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Brian Hodge
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| 11/25/2008 6:06 PM |
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| Since we are in the education tab I guess we should stay within the boundries of education. Lets see the no child left behind in theory may be positive but I believe public education dumbs down the progress of the students who may not be as challenged. What is right in this case is to have each and everyone challenged. Taking their abilities into consideration we need to have a system that will encourage growth and confidence. If my child is having difficulties I don't expect the teaching staff to spend more time with my child at the expense of the other kids. I needed to be challenged and was not in school, unfortunately I was an average student because I was bored and had no support at home. So what can we do to assist and support each and every student? We devise a plan that does not have a system based on who's kid goes to this district or that district. If a politicians or business person's kid goes to one school does that mean they get more funding or extra because the other school only has everyday Joes like me? I believe in opportunity no matter what your social or financial status. For those who work hard are rewarded because of the opportunity available for those who reach their goals. The question is what are the challenges preventing this if it is in fact we do have a broken system. The main thing I have a problem with is because parents are not involved in alot of cases, the government dictates how things will be. This inhibits true freedom and increases the potential for someone/teacher/staff to try and instill their beliefs on the students. It is an interesting dilemma and we need to be more involved in our education system. |
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Mike Atlas
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| 11/26/2008 7:51 AM |
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I don't think our teachers get paid enough. I'd like to see teachers' salaries increased to make teaching a little more competitive. It would be nice to see more private educational systems offered that the government could somehow subsidize. I'd also like to see more emphasis in the fields of science, technology and mathematics. So much of our day to day lives are at the mercy of science and technology, and so many people have a minimal understanding of science and technology, it's not a good combination.
They need a new class in High School called "real life." And in this class they need to teach kids how to negotiate a car loan, manage credit-cards, how to calculate compounded interest, how to negotiate a mortgage, and all that other stuff that public education fails to prepare you for. These aren't moral decisions to be left up to parenting either, these are decisions that most of us will face sooner or later, and just look at the state we're in right now when we don't prepare our youth to make good decisions with their credit... |
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